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[zambini15]

the crusades, the original jiihad, ironic.

[artie_dale]

Originally Posted by zambini15

the holy lance of antioc.
a fine relec, but it cant compare with[B] the holy hand-grenade of antioc.[/B
iI especially enjoyed how this documentary quickly, with but ONE SENTENCE, passes over how the CRUSADERS of europe, got their juices flowing and wealth enhancement by KILLING THOUSANDS of JEWS right there in erurope !
I guess these days that would be referrrred to as 'pre-season".

All the looting and senseless killing, of Jews AND other Christian denominations, all on the way to take on Islam.

As far as the "holy lance" or the "spear of destiny goes", one part I was surprised that was left out, was "why" the Muslims fled the way they did. According to an old Muslim writer, Ibn al-Athir, during the battle at Antioch, when the Turks surrounded the village, the members of the Turkish army was plotting to betray their current leader, Kerbogha, for his "ill-treatment" of them. They were planing on turning the other way and fleeing, leaving him to his death, just so happens, that was when the Crusaders charged. The numbers were so lopsided, which makes it understandable why it might have been considered a miracle.

[zambini15]

the movie EL cid, portrays the Mystic shiny horsemen from god as very shinny shields.
wierd how i find that more plausable.

[zambini15]

Originally Posted by artie_dale

Another excellent documentary. This one of the Crusades.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqK-RuntywY

Pretty enlightening. James Earl Jones narrates

thanks for posting, great documentary.
if you watch it, make note of how BIASED some of these 'religious historians are"
when they discuss how a faction of the crusades took over a city and killed every single inhabitant, then a month later began to cannibalize the bodies as a means of SCARING people at their resolve?
who are they going to scare, the corpses/
irrational sensationalization, but thats what religion generates !
millions murdeered in the name of christ and allah over the centuries.
I am sure both allah and jesus would be proud of their devote followers!
POPE URBAN, nice work !